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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/18/2010 8:45:07 PM
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/18/2010 9:59:33 PM
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I was raised to be proud to be called a Yank. When I was much, much younger I remember singing that song "I'm a Yankee-Doodle-Dandy..." and picturing James Cagney in my head. 
But I have a question for the Brits...what is mutton? It's some kind of food thing. I met a British lass in NYC who told me they had more mutton "over there" than steaks or chops. Is this true? I was told this somewhere during the 1990's (1993?).
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/18/2010 10:25:24 PM
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Mutton in England is probably the same as mutton in the USA - "the flesh of fully grown sheep".
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/18/2010 11:13:01 PM
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I never had to eat mutton, but it doesn't sound so bad.
But I have more questions for the Brits if it's ok. I have been cautioned by some that when traveling overseas be aware that the standard of medical care will not be the same as it is in the U.S.A. except for Britain which has very high standards in medical care but they have socialized medicine which means it will take a while to see a doctor and even longer to see a specialist. Is this true or no?
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 12:15:39 AM
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I just remembered some other questions I had. Now, in the U.S. I can understand the term "dude" ton refer to a male person came from a "dude ranch" where the workers were all male. At least, I think that's where that came from. But where does the term "chap" come from and what does that relate to? Or how about calling someone your mate....in the U.S. "your mate" is your love interest. Not one guy calling another guy his mate. How did this get started?
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 12:33:33 AM
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I was raised to be proud to be called a Yank. When I was much, much younger I remember singing that song "I'm a Yankee-Doodle-Dandy..." and picturing James Cagney in my head.
But I have a question for the Brits...what is mutton? It's some kind of food thing. I met a British lass in NYC who told me they had more mutton "over there" than steaks or chops. Is this true? I was told this somewhere during the 1990's (1993?).
Aussies call Americans "Yank". It is not seen to be a derogatory term. One of our favourite entertainers, Don Lane, who originally hailed from the Bronx, was affectionately called the "Lanky Yank" here.
Mutton is meat from a sheep, older than lamb or hogget.
Ever hear the term "Mutton dressed as lamb"? It is referring to someone who dresses, looks and acts younger than they are and are not doing a good job of it.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 12:37:28 AM
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We call everyone "mate" here. Male or female. Whether they are your best friend, brother or stranger.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 12:39:11 PM
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread
What I don't understand is why the old thread had to end?
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 12:49:19 PM
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Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 12:50:18 PM
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I never had to eat mutton, but it doesn't sound so bad.
But I have more questions for the Brits if it's ok. I have been cautioned by some that when traveling overseas be aware that the standard of medical care will not be the same as it is in the U.S.A. except for Britain which has very high standards in medical care but they have socialized medicine which means it will take a while to see a doctor and even longer to see a specialist. Is this true or no?
I think it's probably similar to how it is in the US. Some of it is excellent and some of it is bad and some of it falls somewhere in between.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 4:10:02 PM
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My hubby has been working in England for the past 18 months. His medical experiences there have been excellent......no different than back here in Aus.
He is on the NHS, the doctors are spot on and because he has chronic conditions his medications are free.
He has also worked in India and the doctors he came across worked well for him as well.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 7:11:43 PM
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But where does the term "mate," come from? I'm wondering and trying to figure out the linguistics. I thought maybe it came from a nautical term as in "shipmate" shortened to "mate." Is this where it came from? But what about the term "chap?" I have no idea where that came from or how that one got started.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/19/2010 7:44:02 PM
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I have more questions for the Brits. Nosey, aren't I? Just the curious type. In the U.S. I'm sure everyone knows we have social security numbers and we pay into social security so we can collect some of that money when we retire. LOL. That's the way it's suppose to work anyway. There's a nasty little rumor going around saying that social security is broke because the government spent up all that money. Anyway...in England do you have social security numbers? Or do you have a whole different way of accomplishing the same task?
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/20/2010 3:44:08 PM
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cuddles
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The word "mate" originated from the Dutch word "maat", (which means "friend") then went into English.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/20/2010 4:57:15 PM
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Thanks cuddles. So I was off course on my understanding of the origins of "mate." Now I know. Do you know the origins of the word "chap?" I could probably stop being so lazy and just trace this word myself, but I thought maybe you might know. And what about my question on the social security thing right up there ^ do you guys have this too? Or how does that work over there?
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/20/2010 5:33:30 PM
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CHAP
It is from a very old english word - CHAPMAN - a name given to traders, travelling peddlars and even customers .... anyone who engaged in trade.
"Chap" from the word chapman, is the same as "cheap" (in other words "cheapman"), so it would have referred to someone who traded cheaply.
The term "chapman" was commonly used in the streets of England to describe anyone involved in trade , then it eventualy got shortened to describe anyone.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/20/2010 5:48:04 PM
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I am not from England so I cannot tell you how their retirement funds work.
The following links will help you with Australian Superannuation
http://www.actu.asn.au/super/about/super_history.html
http://www.apra.gov.au/insight/upload/history-of-superannuation.pdf
bit of lengthy reading!
My Super Scheme gives me a choice of the amount I can pay into Super, from 2% up to 9% of my salary. I have chosen 9%.
That money is then invested by the scheme into the market of my choice, or if I do not nominate how to invest they will do it for me.
I also "Salary Sacrifice". That is I pay extra, over the 9%, to top up.
When I retire I can nominate to receive my superannuation in one lump sum or arrange to have it paid fortnightly.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/20/2010 10:10:31 PM
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Our "national ID" would have to be our Medicare Card - no photos, just a number, though I would have no problem if it was decided to include our photo.
Because we have socialized medical care, everyone is issued with a Medicare Card (after applying for one). This card is used when seeing the local GP, Hospital Emergency Dept, Psychiatrists, Psychologists, Radiographers, Audiologists, Optometrists.............so we can use the card for ID purposes.
I have no problems with being given a number by the Government. Everything I do in life has a number to it : Employment, Banking, my accounts for electricity, water, telephone, mortgages, house number, phone number, passport, medical record number, insurance, tax number.
Yes - our superannuation is guarranteed. If I retire before the age of 60 I pay some tax on it, but if I retire after the age of 60 I receive all of it tax free. Its the government's way of encouraging people to stay in employment.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/20/2010 10:40:40 PM
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interesting cuddles. Maybe this is boring stuff to you because you deal with it everyday, but I have never been where you are now so it seems interesting to me. Does that make any sense? And this shows me that maybe there are other ways (instead of what we are doing) where the same issues can be dealt with. And I have questions about where you are at but I can't ask them here because this is the Brit-Yank thread. I'll ask you them in that other thread over there, ok?
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/20/2010 10:58:29 PM
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interesting cuddles. Maybe this is boring stuff to you because you deal with it everyday, but I have never been where you are now so it seems interesting to me. Does that make any sense? And this shows me that maybe there are other ways (instead of what we are doing) where the same issues can be dealt with. And I have questions about where you are at but I can't ask them here because this is the Brit-Yank thread. I'll ask you them in that other thread over there, ok?
By all means jump in. I am sure Cherish and the others will embrace you and welcome your queries. We Aussies love to talk about our country.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/21/2010 10:30:26 AM
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Good thread, Lisa.
Can't stay this time, but at least I'm now subbed.
A kiwi? Me. I was born in New Zealand. Although I have dual citizenship. I have New Zealand and Australian citizenship. I don't think they allow dual citizenship any more though. I'm not sure.
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/25/2010 9:49:29 PM
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walkbygrace, here in Sydney we have a chain of clothes/shoe stores called Colarado. They sell some pretty good clothing and I love their shoes - though both are expensive.
Do you know if the chain actually originated in Colorado? Have you heard of them?
(I think I can post this question here. )
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RE: Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/25/2010 10:11:23 PM
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Well, cuddles; I personally have never heard of them but I asked a guy who was born and raised in this State and he says, "yes, those stores are here too and are sprinkled around the State of Colorado." Whether the store originated here he doesn't know and he tells me the store was named after the owner who is of Italian descent. So we both learned something new. How about that. They have them in Sydney? Man! That guy is probably filthy rich if he has stores all around the globe. Now, Cuddles; let me ask you a question. I asked this question in the other thread and I hope I will be allowed to ask it here. There is an Outback restaurant chain here in the U.S. Do you have these restaurants over there too? It's suppose to be a real Australian eating experience type of deal, but Trish tells me they don't have stuff over there like what is in the restaurant. How does she know unless they do have those places over there. Do they? And do you know what she is talking about exactly?
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Brit-Yank Understanding Thread - 1/25/2010 10:15:35 PM
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It's suppose to be a real Australian eating experience type of deal, but Trish tells me they don't have stuff over there like what is in the restaurant. How does she know unless they do have those places over there.
She might have looked up the menu online.
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